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A New Sports Arbitrage Year

Posted by Aegist on January 5th, 2008

Hello everyone. After a few weeks of no posting thanks to the holiday season and other commitments, I return with a posting overloaded with announcement, news and new alert services. We have a couple of announcements from OddsAndBets and ArbExpert, plus three new alert services just added to the alert services page: ArbSafe, Odds1×2 and BetWinners.

OddsAndBets

The OddsAndBets promotion is still pumping along so don’t forget to take full advantage of it. Four months worth of significantly discounted alerts is a great deal, and worth its weight in gold. Use the Sports Arbitrage Guide link to OddsAndBets, and enter the special discount promo code as described in the full original article to get your discount.

ArbExpert

ArbExpert, as always continued to grow and add new features to its service. They recently added Handicap middle, Over/Under middles and Spread middles to their service, plus they are in the process of beta testing Total middles - all of which will increase the value of their service significantly. I have no doubt that ArbExpert will continue to grow and make a name for itself as one of the market leaders in the Arbitrage alert services
industry.

ArbSafe, Odds1×2 and BetWinners added to Arbitrage Alert Services Page

Three new services added. Odds1×2 is an odds comparison service which offers a completely free surebet service which has received some positive comments from the crowd at ArbForum. it is certainly no where near the same level as the higher alert services, but as far as free services go, it appears to be pretty good, and very easy to use.

ArbSafe has recently started an email and SMS based alert service. Charging £45 per month for the Email and SMS version (£25 for just Emails). They have a large list of bookmakers and promise around 170 arbs per month, but beyond that I don’t really have much information on them yet. I have been in email contact with the owner so I expect to find out more in the coming weeks.

BetWinners was an interesting addition to the world of Alert Services. Busting onto the scene in a random forum post on ArbForum, I have never seen a website so ‘well constructed’ yet completely unintelligible for all of the spelling and grammatical errors. It is only £8.99 per month (why not just make it £9? or even £10) and that includes a members area where ‘other money making ideas are posted’ and access to “Million Dollar Emails” - where you can attempt to re-sell e-books which I can only presume the original author failed to sell, so decided to flog it off on to other people to see if they could sell it for him. The members area even comes with ‘XXX Links’. Classy. I guess that explains what arbers are supposed to do with the spare time between arbs…

I am intrigued to see where BetWinners will end up, but I think I can already guess.


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Odds and Bets - Exclusive SAG Promotion

Posted by Aegist on November 30th, 2007

After a few weeks of negotiation, Odds and Bets have agreed to offer an exclusive promotional discount to Sports Arbitrage Guide readers. Exclusive to SAG readers, a 25% discount is on offer for 3 months worth of subscriptions. This offer can be taken as well as the standard promotional offer for all new subscribers. So whether you are a new subscriber to Odds And Bets or a current subscriber, you can benefit from this offer!

New subscribers are advised to register and claim the standard promotional offer first. Follow this link: New Member Registration 2x Bookmakers
and claim your initial bonus offer which doubles the normal number of bookmakers included in your package (effectively a 50% discount).

After your first month has expired, and for all other current subscribers to Odds And Bets, you can claim your 25% discount by simply going to this page: 25% Sports Arbitrage Guide Discount Promotion
and following the instructions on the page. When required, enter the promotional code: sagob0708

Use this page and code for each payment made during your 3 month discounted period in order to qualify for the discount each time.

Don’t forget that not only can you take out any of their monthly packages with this offer, but you can also take this offer with customised packages too - so you can pick and choose the bookmakers which you are specifically interested in and not worry about paying for any more than you need. (Be sure to contact Odds And Bets beforehand and arrange the details first!)

Remember, this offer is available from Sports Arbitrage Guide only (you won’t be able to find this anywhere else), it includes a total of 4 months worth of significant discounts, and you need to use the promotional bonus code from this page to qualify for it.

This offer will run from today until the 30th of March 2008.

Subscribe to Odds and Bets

25% Discount for Returning Customers

Promotional Code: sagob0708


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OddsAndBets 3 Day trial conclusion

Posted by Aegist on June 8th, 2006

Here are three screenshots I took last night while I was comparing the two programs. What I primarily want to demonstrate with these pictures is that both programs find and remove arbs at almost identical times. There is no real distinctive difference between the tow service providers. I point this out because I have read a previous review at sportsarbitragereview.co.uk by a supposed ‘Alan Seymour’ who states that SurebetPro was 4-6 minutes behind other programs. This is clearly not the case in these examples, and as I trial more and more software I will continue to make these sorts of comparisons.

http://www.sportsarbitrageguide.com/picts/…pcomparison.jpg
This first image shows 4 new arbs found by O&B (highlighted orange), and two older ones. All 6 of these arbs have also been found by SBP, and none of them are new, however as you can see by the countdown on SBP (57), this screen shot was taken 3 seconds after a refresh, so SBP probably only found them in the previous refresh. The extra arbs seen on SBP are all less than 0.5%, the point at which O&B stop reporting arbs. I have chosen to have SBP show all of its arb for the purpose of this comparison, although if you want you can select to screen those sorts of things out by choice.

http://www.sportsarbitrageguide.com/picts/…comparison2.jpg
This second image shows 3 new arbs found at O&B at the same time that the same 3 arbs were newly found with SBP (highlighted yellow in SBP).

http://www.sportsarbitrageguide.com/picts/…comparison3.jpg
The final image here shows a very high percentage arb created due to an error by 5Dimes. Both O&B and SBP found this arb at the same time and both reported it without any ‘warnings’ about it. I don’t think any software ever do physically warn you about potentially dangerous arbs, but I have heard some say that “Such and such should warn you not to place that arb” etc. In my experience though, each service provider will tell you this sort of information beforehand, and in each scenario it is up to you to decide whether you trust it or not.

In this case, 5Dimes’ odds were clearly out of line with everyone elses, but internally, they had sensible odds (2.7 and 1.5 on this game). Whether that would be retracted as ‘obvious human error’ or not, is only something 5Dimes will decide, and then we wil be bound by their decision. Is the large profit worth the risk? I think experience is the key to knowing this: I have already learnt that Canbet will definitely cancel anything which was in anyway a mistake. I didn’t place this arb, so I don’t know whether 5Dimes cancelled it. If you did place a bet on these odds, can you please post a message here telling everyone of the outcome?
Thanks

Shane 3:45am GMT 4/4/06

The second night now, its 1am AEST, and I have another screenshot, this time showing both SBP and O&B showing the same erroneous odds for linesmaker. I get the impression this has something to do with linesmakers behind the scenes odds displaying techniques. I will need to find out one day how it is that SBP and O&B go about collecting odds from the bookmakers, because I beleive that will explain why this happens sometimes (and its always with the same bookmakers in my experience with SBP). With Ladbrokes for example, it is easy to see problems because over night (GMT) sometimes ladbrokes will creat ean arb by not updating odds since they don’t seem to have anyone working over night. When the betting reaches an imposed betting limit, I assume some software automatically suspends betting on those odds without removing the odds from the site. This fact has many times led to me removing Ladbrokes from my inclusion list just to shut the alarm up until someone comes into work the next morning (GMT) and changes the odds for them…

In this image however, it is clear to see that the moneyline has simply been removed from Linesmakers website, and the pointspread odds had simply changed, yet the feed to SBP and O&B both said that they hadn’t….
http://www.sportsarbitrageguide.com/picts/…comparison4.jpg

This went on for about 10 minutes before they both stopped reporting it.

In other news, I emailed O&B and asked about what other features i could play with, and basically there isn’t anything in the trial period you can use, in the paid system you can pick and choose your bookmakers I am pretty sure…but I don’t know if there is really anything else you can change. There is an audible sound every refresh which brings up a new arb, however I have found two things. 1. It doesn’t work in Firefox, which is why I didn’t know about it in my first post (they are working on this) and 2. In Internet Explorer, you can’t hear the noise if the window is minimised. If it is simply in the background it works, but if you minimise it, the sound stops. and 3. each refresh doesn’t always get rid of the ‘new’ highlighting, and so you can often hear the ring several times in a row for the same arb. This is a bit annoying when on the trial, however I imagine when you are actually interested in every bookmaker, you don’t mind being constantly reminded that there is an arb there that you actually want. (No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!)

You know, I think O&B mightneed to review their trial policy. So far most of the negatives actually come from the fact that this is only a trial, and in this trial they give you access to everybookmaker. You would think that having more bookmakers would be better, but I know I would prefer to be able to restrict it to just the ones I am interested in. In order for them to give a real impression of what it is like to use their software, they would probably be better off either making you choose 5 (like their entry level product) or allowing you access to all 70, but you pick which ones you want at the begining. I can’t imagine that being too much work for them, and it will allow people to get a better idea of it for themselves. Although I can also see their desire to show brand new people that they do in fact find a LOT of arbs with this software, and there is no way to show someone how many arbs there are when you only have a few bookmakers available….

Shane

OK, the final post from my review here. After the trial ended I talked quite a bit with someone from OddsAndBets about their service. They were incredibly helpful and their response time was very quick, so its nice to know you are dealing with a company who is there to help.

A couple of points came out of the conversation with regards to points I raised above. Firstly, the audible alert going silent when you minimise the Internet Explorer window is something they can’t help: its a feature of IE (makes sense, I hate those websites which play music at you of the best of times. Its good to know you can shut them up by minimising them). So if you want the audible alert to sound upon finding new arbs (I highly recommend it) then you simply need to keep the window open. It doesn’t have to be on top, just don’t minimise it. They are also currently working on making the audible alert play in firefox. Of course IE is the most commonly used browser still, so they have optimised O&B to run in IE, however they realise that mroe and more people are using Firefox (particularly amongst arb traders, because the Tabs really help) so they are working on this and will contact me when it is working.

The other strong advantage that O&B do have which I forgot about: operating from a website makes it accessible anywhere. So if you work in an office in front of a computer all day and then come home to sit infront of your home computer, than O&B caters perfectly for that. SBP can only be installed on one computer, so SBP is stuck either at home, or at work (if you can do that!) or on a laptop which comes with you everywhere. This is a big annoyance for many people who use SBP. ArbAlarm offers downloadable software which can be installed on multiple computers, so it needn’t be as strict as SBP, and I suggested that perhaps O&B should consider making a software download optional since operating the arb alert system through installed software allows for better interactivity, and features like the pop-up window in SBP. So thats out there, but asking a company to go to all the trouble of writing a software package just to cater to a few more people who probably don’t necessarily even need it is a big ask, and I doubt they will think it is worth their time and money to develop.

I also discovered that you can select your bookmakers on the trial however you can only take an email alert trial instead of the website trial with this option. When you request your trial, give them a list of bookmakers you want and you will receive alert emails whenever arbs come. They include all bookmakers because most people taking the trial are first timers who don’t know what bookmakers they will want to use, and so they use the trial period as a chance to evaluate which bookmakers are good.

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In summary the whole trial has been a good experience. They find a lot of arbs and i have confidence the company will keep growing to include more bookmakers, more sports, and more betting types. The customer service was great in my experience as they always replied quickly with all of the information I asked for. The website refreshed regularly and was very easy to use.

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Originally published in the original Sports Arbitrage Guide forum on the 4th of Arpil 2006.

Shane


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Odds And Bets Start New Promotion

Posted by Aegist on May 30th, 2006

Odds and Bets started a new promotion recently for new members. For the first month of a new registration you will be given lines from twice as many bookmakers as you pay for. So if you want 10 bookmakers, you only need to pay for 5 ($69), or if you want 20 bookmakers you only need to pay for 10 ($119).

This new offer is to work alongside their earlier offer of first two months for the price of one which was only available for their starter pack (5 bookmakers). SInce 5 bookmakers isn’t very many, I guess a few people asked for more options, and so this new offer gives you the same value, but twice as many books instead of months, and this one applies to all subscription levels.

Shane

Odds And Bets New Promo


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Odds And Bets 3 Day Trial Review

Posted by Aegist on April 12th, 2006

My 3 day trial of the service provider OddsAndBets started at precisely 7pm Australian EST (+10) (which was midday by the time set by OddsAndBets, so I assume they are at +3??). The interface consists of a website with very clear text descriptions of each arb. New arbs are displayed with an Orange Highlight for the duration of that refresh. The screen refreshes every 30 seconds.

Part of the trial involves having all bookmakers included. This is obviously good for seeing how many arbs their program finds, however it also means you have to sort through which arbs are relevent to you and which ones aren’t. Paying customers pay more for the inclusion of more bookmakers, however in this circumstance, it is probably better to have less bookmakers, so you know exactly when YOU have an arb and when you don’t. I only actively use 5 or so bookmakers at the moment, so I would happily use their cheapest option.

In order to change account settings you have to email them, which seems to be quite troublesome. I have emailed them simply to ask what I can change. At the moment there is no audible alarm for higher arbs, and no method of screening bookmakers you don’t want.

Watching SBP next to OddsAndBets, the arbs come up at essentially the same time (depending on refresh point, but the same refresh in anycase). SBP consistently has more arbs than OddsAndBets, although this seems to be because 1. SBP has a few more bookmakers than O&B still, and 2. because O&B does screen arbs of less than 0.3%, while SBP shows everything it finds.

I have only been looking at this website for about 2 hours now, and so far my thoughts are that it really needs an audible alarm, an easier interface with the options than email, and a pop-up menu like SBP has… that tool is invaluable. The audible alarm is great for large arbs: when you hear that, you KNOW that you want to jump on it. But having an alarm ringing constantly because you ahve set it to 1% is annoying. But having the window pop up in the lower right hand corner momentarily every minute isn’t bothersome, and allows you to know when there is an arb which you could use if you want to. This window allows you to otherwise ignore SBP while you do other things. O&B though, because it is a webbrowser window really must be on top in order for you to see whether there is an arb or not. Right now for instance, I am writing this post on it, and I have no idea whether there are any arbs on O&B or not (there could be a snooker arb or something!) while I know that SBP has no arbs in my included list that are over 1% because the window hasn’t poped up at all.

That difference is critical so far in my mind. As I continue with this trial over the next 3 days, I will write to O&B a few times, and I will ask them if they can somehow implement some sort of scripting which effects a similar result for their software as the pop-up window (Note: The pop-up window in SBP is not the traditionally hated “pop-up”, but more like the MSN messenger alert window. It slides up in the lower right hand corner and then slides away without redirecting the focus of your windows.. ie: You can keep typing while it happens without your cursor being moved…)

Shane


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