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Posted by Aegist on June 3rd, 2010
Originally posted on ShaneGreenup.com
Googling “Shane Greenup” these days sadly places a scam website, OzRipOff.com way too high in the results. Ever since September last year I have been targetted by a couple of scammers who run Sports Arbitrage Investment and Software scams as part of their defamation campaign against all critics and competitors. As the owner of Sports Arbitrage Guide, the most trusted and relied upon information resource in the Sports Arbitrage world, I am obviously both a competitor (Compare all alert services before buying!*), and a critic (Don’t get ripped off by arbitrage scams) of these scammers. Therefore, the scammers (in this specific instance, the individuals behind CSI Arbitrage) use their fraudulent and illegal website OzRipOff.com to defame me and others.
*It is worth noting that CSI Arbitrage was in this comprehensive list up until a few weeks ago when it was proven conclusively to me that they were indeed a scam, lying about their activities, and behind OzRipOff.com – therefore responsible for the baseless assault on my integrity and reputation.Since the original defamatory post was a made, a second post about me and Sports Arbitrage Guide has also been posted. The first article, titled simply, “Shane Greenup Wanker” was replaced on the front page of OzRipOff with the much more aggressively titled “Shane Greenup, the sexual deviate’s sportsarbitrageguide scam”.
In the first article, the author simply insults me and attempts to be intimidating. All of the comments are without doubt posted by the same person, with one exception, the first post by “honest”, which I posted in an attempt to inform ignorant readers of the article of the context in which the post was made. The DAY after making this post, my email account, paypal and moneybookers account were hacked, and a significant amount of money was stolen from me.
The second article simply attempts to undermine my integrity, honesty and reputation. It fails for several reasons, primarily missing the point of Sports Arbitrage Guide being a “Free Guide” and also missing the fact that SAG covers every single arbitrage alert service in the market – thus making it impossible for their lies to be even close to reality – there is no way that I personally own every single arbitrage alert software in the market. Not to mention, that the whole thing is a lie anyway – I don’t run any alert service, I “Affiliate” with every alert service which runs an affiliate program, and happily claim whatever small commission I can from the sales off my website, but I am otherwise not associated with these companies at all. But anyone can see that for themselves just by looking – and you can also see the numerous ones which do NOT run affiliate programs, which are also reviewed in my comprehensive* listing of alert service providers. (*Comprehesnive excluding all known SCAM products and services not yet made known to me)
I knew CSI Arbitrage was behind this assault on my reputation, but what I did not know until recently, was that the entire website (OzRipOff.com) was operated by the same people who run CSI. The proof came when I compared the ip addresses of the emails I received from Antoinette Mead, the director of Cohen Strachan Investment, and the ip address of the emails I received from “John Taylor” of OzRipOff.com – They were identical. 59.167.219.109
Further evidence came when Richard Partington posted on OzRipOff about CSI Arbitrage (http://www.ozripoff.com/report-view/826-cohen-screwyouoveryour-investment), and overnight his report of a real rip-off, was quickly turned around into defamatory attack on his character (equally backed up with the same number and style of ‘user comments’ as can be seen on my own articles – further evidence that the SAME PERSON is performing all of these posts and comments.). Anyone can test this fact out for themselves – go to OzRipOff.com right now, and post a report about CSI Arbitrage being a scam, and I guarantee it will be removed – unlike every other article about any other company, which requires you to spend $6000 to have an ‘investigator’ investigate you and clear your name…
Furthermore, only in the last week, CSI actually went and reposted the same lies about me on OzRipOff.com into their own blog (csiarbitrage.com.au/blogview/directors-reponse-re-richard-partington-322). They repeat the lie about the alert services being mine, and incorrectly assume that Richard Partington is somehow under my control or direction. I met Richard Partington for the first time when I went to his CTTT hearing against CSI Arbitrage in Gosford – he was already well under way in his legal proceedings against them, and had already spent a long time investigating them before I even met them. I went to the hearing simply out of duty to my visitors and readers – I felt obliged to find out what was going on. Sadly, I was the only other person who turned up on the day – not even Antoinette Mead (Toni Mead) showed up, but instead partook in the hearing via telephone… The judge did incorrectly assume I was a friend of Richards at the time (since I was there, and no one else was – it is a reasonable assumption), and introduced me to Antoinette Mead as such when the call connected – but the reality was that i was just trying to find the truth – as I always have. Since then, I have found the truth – and as all of this evidence is already demonstrating, it is not in CSI’s favour. So ironically, CSI’s accusation that Richard is working under my directions has the cart before the horse.
And finally, to segue nicely into the next topic, what sort of respectable company publicly names a mere moderator of a public forum, and identifies their geographical location and real name as a way of dealing with the fall out of a disgruntled customer? ArbForum.co.uk is NOT my website. There are 5 moderators there, and 1 administrator – and for some reason, they single me out personally in this way and attempt to make it sound like *I* am responsible for Richard’s ‘rants’. This is NOT respectable company behaviour, under any circumstances. It also completely misses the fact that I have probably deleted more of Richards posts than anyone in an attempt to keep him under control (he’s angry – and I don’t blame him).
TopOdds spent two years trying to infiltrate ArbForum. He cried scam at every arbitrage scam that was found – and brought plenty of new ones to everyone’s attention. He also spent a lot of time belittling the monthly subscription services (in exactly the same way that they were belittled in the OzRipOff and CSI articles), saying that they were useless and a waste of money. Lastly, he spent a lot of time talking about how “he wouldn’t sell everything he knew for anything less than $50,000!” In short, he spent his whole time on arbforum trying to sound like an experience professional arber, and tried to make $100 a month for an alert service sound too expensive, but $17,600 for some training and software cheap.
And then he posted this thread on arbforum. Sadly, my own replies there show my ignorance at the time, but that was the way it went down. It is clear now that TopOdds was indeed a Shill from the beginning. When confronted with such accusations, he rants:
im not a customer,i dont own it,i dont work for them,i didnt build the app,im not paul perry!(as far as i know hes a leading sydney racing identy/trianer – so shouldnt be hard to find!)
Sorry it that kills the dream of some here but facts are facts -end of story!
Topodds is opinionated,not a fence sitter,not policly correct,right wing but not a lier!
Yet comparing his IP used to make the posts on ArbForum, with the IP used to log in to trial the Carbon A software 2 years ago, and I found (surprise!) that Topodds was in FACT posting on arbforum from CSI’s office. (btw, note the trades on that screenshot – none of them are arbs?!??!?!)
No respectable company would spend 2 YEARS setting up such a deep shill. Systematically trying to undermine every competitor in the marketplace, legitimate or not, while lying the whole time about who he was, what his experience is, and what his intentions were.
Ironically, it was only because of TopOdds posted the review of CSI that all of this happened. I was happy to ignore CSI altogether – actively fighting scams and scammers didn’t seem worth my time, i had done my part by warning people REPEATEDLY on SAG about scams already – but then TopOdds made his post, and Richard Partington came on the scene making lots of noise – and TopOdds started to defend CSI a little bit too hard. If it wasn’t for TopOdds’ great work defending CSI, I may have never got suspicious. And if it wasn’t for CSI making this personal – by making defamatory comments about me online, and trying to harm my reputation, I don’t think i would have bothered going to all this trouble of reporting their illegal activities to the police, the ACCC, ASIC, Politicians and media outlets, not to mention this much more public posting, which ultimately will reveal their true criminal nature once and for all – hopefully stopping the need for people to bother emailing Richard or myself any more, unsure whether CSI is a scam or not…
So congratulations CSI – Antoinette Mead, Larry pickering, and Wayne Evans – you actually did this all to yourselves.
As stated in my original article in 2007, CSI Arbitrage’s Carbon A steals it’s arbitrage alert feed from SportsPunter. I thought that SportsPunter had fixed the problem from their end, but a statutory declaration from an ex employee of CSI states that the attempt to stop CSI from stealing and reselling their feed for the biggest mark-up ever didn’t completely work, and CSI continued to use Sports Punter’s feed. I am not certain that they still use SportsPunters arb feed now, but it was clear that CSI never intended on making their own odds collection and analysis service – they just made someone else’s work look like it belonged to them.
You can also see in that stat dec, that Luke states that he worked for Larry Pickering. Antoinette (toni) Mead is just the fall person. She’s the one who will end up in prison when the authorities finally catch up with all of these criminals. Today Tonight have previously run a story on Larry, reporting his inability to afford maintenance on his children, but maintaining his luxury penthouses and his own helicopter. This is what life is like when you have no ‘legal’ income. The search results which tell the story of Larry’s long history with horse racing software and now arbitrage investment schemes speaks for itself.
And while OzRipOff.com continues to post articles calling me a scammer and worse, they have not once provided any form of evidence or argument in support of their claims. Meanwhile, as clearly shown in this article, I have plenty of evidence proving their lies, their corruption, and their fraud.
If you have been ripped off by CSI Arbitrage, or any of the previous arbitrage or horse racing scams, then keep an eye out – a group of pissed off people are snowballing into a very large angry mob, who want justice. Take the time to subscribe to this thread on ArbForum, and follow all of the directions posted by Richard – he has done tremendous work finding every avenue possible to make these con men (and woman) accountable for their crimes.
Posted by Aegist on May 17th, 2009
Just another post about two more companies which have recently come to my attention – GoldNuggetInvest and Pegasus Group Australasia. Gold Nuggest Invest is actually a typical HYIP, and it’s connection to arbitage is probably only in claim. What they offer is clearly absurd, and only possible in the realm of Ponzi – they promise a risk free 6% return per WEEK. Yeah right. This sort of investment scheme is common in the world of ‘HYIP’s and anyone reading this who finds themselves considering ‘investing’ in such a scheme, then please spend some time reading about what HYIP’s are and their history. You will quickly find that there is a long history of getting people in only to disappear with all of their money. Most important thing to know about HYIP’s, is that every single one of them has had a loud cheersquad proclaiming how great their HYIP is and how they have been paid and how much money they have made etc. This in no way means that the HYIP is not a ponzi – in fact it is the one thing common between all Ponzis, because without new investors, there is no way for the ponzi to continue paying out the old investors.
Someone emailed me about GoldNuggetInvest to ask me if I thought what they claimed was possible, and in that email they indicated that their investigation had not found any negative information on them. I know how easy it is to research someone and only find positive feedback and good news about them – but this information is not helpful. This is why whenever I start researching a company or investment scheme, the first thing I do is google the companies name with the word Scam or Rip Off after it. I find this tends to very quickly and easily highlight any complaints about the company you are investigating. Don’t just trust the good news, and the links provided by the promoters of the company – go looking for the dirt directly. I will have to write an article on this topic alone I think…
I have also been recently contacted about Pegasus Group Australasia. This company operates out of Brisbane QLD, and sells arbitrage software for $16,000. I have not seen the software myself, but the person who I spoke with about it said that they company offered to discount the package to the low low price of $9200, and even better than that, offered to accept only $2300 upfront and have the rest paid off from their trading profits.
I don’t know how good the software is, it could be the best on the market (they all claim to be, this one might as well claim it too), and my basic complaint will remain the same as it always has. An alert software is a SERVICE. It is an ongoing commitment of resources. It requires continual adjustments, upgrades and attention to detail. Bookmakers change, betting markets change, sports change…everything is in flux. In order for there to be an incentive for a company to continue to provide assistance, support, and continual upgrades and improvement to their software to get through all of these changes, there simply MUST be an ongoing service fee associated with the software – single upfront fees are not viable business models.
If the company offering the software is a good company, then you should feel absolutely no pressure and no rush, because they should be around for a long time. If they are not, then you have saved yourself a lot of lost money, and if they are, then you don’t need to rush into purchasing their software. If they claim to be only taking in a few customers before closing their doors, then you should be skeptical of that claim, because they are basically saying that they are going to stop all of their cashflow! What will keep them in business after they stop taking new customers???? What incentive do they then have to maintain the software for their old customers???
Singe upfront payments for arbitrage alert software simply don’t make fiscal sense.
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